Date   

Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - 07/20/2021 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When:
07/20/2021
8:00pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
PAPA System Analog Repeaters #7, 9, 10, 11, 15 & 18

View Event

Description:
Net Control - KD9LF
North Check-Ins - KG6RGI
South Check-Ins - KJ6HOV
Sysop - KG6RGI

If the PAPA System is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - 07/20/2021 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When:
07/20/2021
8:00pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
PAPA System Analog Repeaters #7, 9, 10, 11, 15 & 18

View Event

Description:
Net Control - KD9LF
North Check-Ins - KG6RGI
South Check-Ins - KJ6HOV
Sysop - KG6RGI

If the PAPA System is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - 07/13/2021 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When:
07/13/2021
8:00pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
PAPA System Analog Repeaters #7, 9, 10, 11, 15 & 18

View Event

Description:
Net Control - KG6RGI
North Check-Ins - KD9LF
South Check-Ins - AI6ZE
Sysop - W6SJK

If the PAPA System is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Re: [EXTERNAL] [ARC2-SDICC] Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - 07/13/2021 #cal-reminder

rwolfe
 

Requesting an email check-in tonight, please.

Royce Wolfe

Disaster Services Volunteer

American Red Cross of San Diego and Imperial Counties
3950 Calle Fortunada

San Diego, CA 92123-1827

Phone: (619) 251-9694

royce.wolfe@...

 

The American Red Cross prevents and alleviates human suffering in the face of emergencies by mobilizing the power of volunteers and the generosity of donors.





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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ARC2-SDICC] Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - 07/13/2021 #cal-reminder
 

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When:
07/13/2021
8:00pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
PAPA System Analog Repeaters #7, 9, 10, 11, 15 & 18

View Event

Description:
Net Control - KG6RGI
North Check-Ins - KD9LF
South Check-Ins - AI6ZE
Sysop - W6SJK

If the PAPA System is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


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Re: Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - 07/13/2021 #cal-reminder

Eric Richardson
 

Email check-in for me please. I'll be out of the area. Thanks. Eric KM6MPE 


On Mon, Jul 12, 2021, 8:00 PM main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar <noreply@groups.io> wrote:

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When:
07/13/2021
8:00pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
PAPA System Analog Repeaters #7, 9, 10, 11, 15 & 18

View Event

Description:
Net Control - KG6RGI
North Check-Ins - KD9LF
South Check-Ins - AI6ZE
Sysop - W6SJK

If the PAPA System is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - 07/13/2021 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When:
07/13/2021
8:00pm to 8:30pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
PAPA System Analog Repeaters #7, 9, 10, 11, 15 & 18

View Event

Description:
Net Control - KG6RGI
North Check-Ins - KD9LF
South Check-Ins - AI6ZE
Sysop - W6SJK

If the PAPA System is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


File /Weekly Nets/RCCT WEEKLY ANLG NET ROSTER 2021_07_12.pdf uploaded #file-notice

main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Notification <noreply@...>
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io group.

By: Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...>

Description:
Weekly Net Roster & Assignments July/August 2021. Net Controls please use this roster until further notice.


Fw: [EXTERNAL] FW: 20210710_SouthernCalifornia_FOR_IIR

Birch, Bob
 

Just a heads up of a wildfire burning in San Diego County. 

DST has not been asked to activate at this time. Please be prepared if we are needed.

We will send a notification via OneCall if we are requested

Bob Birch / KG6RGI 
Volunteer, Disaster Services Technology Activity Lead 


American Red Cross San Diego/Imperial Counties Chapter
3950 Calle Fortunada | San Diego, CA 92123-1827
Direct: (760) 533-1957| Fax: (858) 309-1289
Cell: (760) 533-1957| E-mail: bob.birch3@...

www.redcross.org/sandiego



From: Bob Birch <rrbirch@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 2:01 PM
To: Birch, Bob <bob.birch3@...>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] FW: 20210710_SouthernCalifornia_FOR_IIR
 

 

 

From: Maloney, Dave [mailto:dave.maloney@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 1:57 PM
To: Mahoney, Sean <sean.mahoney@...>; Leahy, Debbie <Debbie.Leahy@...>; Everhart, Denise C. <denise.everhart@...>; Franklin, Tyrone <tyrone.franklin2@...>; Beckman, Luke M. <luke.beckman@...>; Boyle, Christopher R. <Christopher.Boyle@...>; Dyar, Ian <Ian.Dyar@...>; Mccann, Erin <erin.mccann3@...>; DOCC <DOCC@...>
Cc: Maloney, Dave <dave.maloney@...>; Powell, Candace <candace.powell2@...>; Howe, Bixi <bixi.howe@...>; Wolfe, Cathy J. <cathy.wolfe@...>; Altman, Melissa <melissa.altman@...>; Fehse, Matthew <matthew.fehse@...>; Ortega, Joe I. <joe.ortega@...>; CH Southern CA Region RLT Group <CHSoCARegDirGroup@...>; Kelly, Brianna <brianna.kelly@...>; Kennedy, Amy <amy.kennedy@...>; Scanlon, Jane <jane.scanlon@...>; Curtis, Cheri <cheri.curtis@...>; mbrichard2@...; Earnest, Michele <michele.earnest@...>; Steinberger, John <john.steinberger@...>; Kriz, Pete <pete.kriz@...>; O'Neil, David <david.oneil2@...>; rrbirch@...; shivaghaed@...; Wise, Loretta <loretta.wise@...>; Chiquete, Nancy <nancy.chiquete@...>; Laura Lyons <lauralyons@...>; Babb, Harold <Harold.Babb@...>; Bernsen, Deborah <deborah.bernsen2@...>; leekhaw7@...; Hu, Cliff <Cliff.Hu@...>; Wilson, Henry <henry.wilson@...>; Simpson, Tom <Tom.Simpson@...>; Gilbert, Eddie <Eddie.Gilbert@...>; stevedeal10@...; Hicks, Ronald <ronald.hicks2@...>; Hubbs, Phil <phil.hubbs@...>; bradtheb@...; Lloyd, Pat <pat.lloyd@...>; Sveningson, Sharon <sharon.sveningson@...>; Paul Dillinger <pauldill@...>; Armendariz, Melody <melody.armendariz2@...>; Knudsen, Amy <amy.knudsen@...>; Meditz, Sandy <sandy.meditz@...>; Ochoa, Ariana <ariana.ochoa@...>; sdicc.dst.cdo@...; Ward, Sean <sean.ward@...>; Ruzich, Monica <Monica.Ruzich@...>; Calderon, Ernie <ernie.calderon@...>; Anderson, Robert <robert.anderson4@...>; Winkel, Gerald <gerald.winkel@...>; Fox, Erin <erin.fox@...>; Aufrecht, Kimberly <kimberly.aufrecht2@...>; Greene, Laura <laura.greene@...>; Caitlin Morris <cmorris2620@...>; Debbie Towers <dtowers@...>; cherimas@...
Subject: 20210710_SouthernCalifornia_FOR_IIR

 

Team,

A brush fire (#RoadFire) has broken out in rural east San Diego County in the Cleveland National Forest.  Last report fire is at 70 acres, 0% containment, moderate rate of spread.  Unknown number of residences are being evacuated from Descanso and Viejas reservation.  TEP identified as Viejas Casino parking lot.  Chapter has Canteen on standby for TEP at request of County OES and Mass Care leadership has been notified...Respectfully, Dave

 

Dave Maloney

Sr Disaster Program Manager

American Red Cross Southern California Region

Serving San Diego, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, and Imperial Counties

3950 Calle Fortunada

San Diego, CA  92123

858-243-8242

dave.maloney@...

 


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Event: Disaster Communications Team Meeting - 07/10/2021 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Disaster Communications Team Meeting

When:
07/10/2021
9:00am to 12:00pm
(UTC-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
Microsoft Teams Virtual Meeting

View Event

Description:
All monthly DST meeting will be held on Microsoft Teams until further notice

If you fail to receive an invite to the Team's meeting before the scheduled meeting, please send an e-mail to bob.birch3@.... I will forward the meeting information to you.

Thanks for everyones understanding during these times. We will start meeting in person again, once we are allowed to do so.

Bob


Response to Jer's Comments on the Papa System

Fred Curtis, KI6GRO
 

All,

In response to Jer’s comments regarding the Papa system, here is my response.   When the decision was made to switch to the Papa system, I had no views one way or the other.  I was neutral on the matter until I was unable to adequately prepare for the net and and emergencies that might arise.  I am not a member of the Papa system, more on that below.

- This is a new website for the PAPA System. There will be teething pains. One of the challenges is locking down the site so that bad actors can't hijack it. Not unusual for a new website design to require

password changes, especially if the old site was less than secure. FWIW IMHO the Internet is no longer the Wild West - it's beginning to have a more "Escape from New York" vibe to it. Organization wishing to protect their digital assets act accordingly. As a result there may be some additional restrictions on the content.

Redesigning the website is fine but has nothing do with the visibility of a given page.  The Papa system  made the conscious decision to make that page only visible to members.  I do this with websites I manage; there are pages only open to members and pages accessible to the public.  If they are having issues with security and site hacking, they need to consult with their ISP and/or the person(s) doing the site design.  Since they charge a membership fee, they should have robust website.  Keeping repeater information private will not prevent people from finding their repeaters or otherwise hacking their website.  Radios of today simply need the receive frequency.  Once the PTT is pushed it will populate with the correct PL tone and offset.  Unfortunately, my older radios do not have this feature.

- The PAPA System is very supportive of the Red Cross - the fact that they allow several Red Cross embers access to their "control room" underscores this. Red Cross volunteers who are not members of the PAPA System have access to their repeaters. A number of Red Cross volunteers including Bob and myself are members - we will ensure Red Cross volunteers will have access to the latest repeater information. BTW consider joining PAPA if you can swing it. Great coverage throughout Southern California - the group is very active in maintaining/expanding the system - the care and feeding of mountaintop repeaters is not cheap so I'm sure the PAPA folks would appreciate your support.

I have no doubt that the Papa system is supportive of the Red Cross.  WRT to access to the control room, I have only heard 3 people actually change the board.  Perhaps there are others that have access to control board.  If it only three of you, I would not consider that several members.  You mentioned membership in the Papa system.  Philosophically, I am against groups such as the Papa system, charging members for access.  It goes against the spirit and tenets of amateur radio, of being open to everyone.  The Red Cross DST team is cautioned to tread lightly in regards to membership in the Papa system, as it is teetering on the appearance of a pay to play system.  We are all volunteers and should not have to have a paid membership in order to view something as basic as a repeater frequency pair, offset and PL tone.

- Which brings me to PLs. Most of the PLs where changed in calendar year 2020. The latest code plug (05/12/2021) reflects all applicable changes to date. IMHO#2 I don't believe we'll see additional UHF PL changes unless a new interference issue raises its ugly head. This is one of the downsides of the large number of repeaters we have in Southern California.

On Tuesday before the net started, I went to Papa system repeater page as I always do.  First to check on the status of the repeaters. On more than one occasion I have been on Papa 11 (Otay, the closest to my QTH) only to find out that the repeater is working but the link is down, resulting in me being missed on the roll call.  Secondly, I go to the repeater page to see if there are any changes such as PL tones, input/output frequencies, etc.  As you are aware, the Papa system has gone through several changes to their repeater settings.  So, on Tuesday evening when I went to the repeater page, I find it locked and, in the description, there was mention of changing PL tones (once again).  That mention of PL  tone changes has since been removed from this page (analog repeaters page).  Now, maybe you will understand my frustration.  So, it is not a matter of Nat posting a static picture of the repeater page for all to see.  That information is snapshot in time and since things change daily on the Papa system, not current.

 

For whatever it is worth, those are my thoughts on Jer’s email regarding the Papa system.

Fred
KI6GRO


Re: Papa Website

Bob Birch
 

Thanks Jer,

Yes the PAPA System has been and is still a very active supporter of the Red Cross. They are working to help get the portable repeater setup and on Arden for us so we will have access to their system in remote areas.

We do have a significant number of Red Cross DST folks who are members of PAPA. At last count there were 14 of us that joined or were members of PAPA. With that many members of PAPA on the team we should never have an issue with getting system updates out to the team. We will also make sure the codeplugs are updated as changes are made, that way you will just need to load the newest codeplug and your ready to go.

Like Jerry said running this many repeaters with site rent, electricity, internet connections its not cheap to keep it working well. What they are doing for the Red Cross is not costing the us anything. The fact they are doing this shows their support of emergency communications With that being said, if you are able to afford joining, please do so, it only will make the system better, as they continue to upgrade to make a stronger system.

If you have concerns or questions, please reach out to me so I can address them.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io <main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jer Kostro - Red Cross
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 4:53 PM
To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io
Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa Website

Hi, All -

A few comments about the Papa Website -

- This is a new website for the PAPA System. There will be teething pains. One of the challenges is locking down the site so that bad actors can't hijack it. Not unusual for a new website design to require password changes, especially if the old site was less than secure. FWIW IMHO the Internet is no longer the Wild West - it's beginning to have a more "Escape from New York" vibe to it. Organization wishing to protect their digital assets act accordingly. As a result there may be some additional restrictions on the content.

- The PAPA System is very supportive of the Red Cross - the fact that they allow several Red Cross members access to their "control room"
underscores this. Red Cross volunteers who are not members of the PAPA System have access to their repeaters. A number of Red Cross volunteers including Bob and myself are members - we will ensure Red Cross volunteers will have access to the latest repeater information. BTW consider joining PAPA if you can swing it. Great coverage throughout Southern California - the group is very active in maintaining/expanding the system - the care and feeding of mountaintop repeaters is not cheap so I'm sure the PAPA folks would appreciate your support.

- Which brings me to PLs. Most of the PLs where changed in calendar year 2020. The latest code plug (05/12/2021) reflects all applicable changes to date. IMHO#2 I don't believe we'll see additional UHF PL changes unless a new interference issue raises its ugly head. This is one of the downsides of the large number of repeaters we have in Southern California.

If there are changes we will either issue a new code plug and/or send out an email addressing the situation.

- Bob is the Chapter representative to the PAPA System. He has a close working relationship with Cecil. Don't hesitate to address your concerns to him. He will look into it or detail someone else (probably me) to bird dog it.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ


Re: Papa Website

Nat 2733E N6BRV
 

Jer, thanks very much for the clarification on the current state of the PAPA system. 
 To reaffirm, YES, please do bring any concerns you (we) have on the PAPA system to Bob.
 
As a side note, you may be already aware (or not) of my past involvement with the PAPA system 8+ years ago in depth before I joined ARCCT.  Performed several capacities as Web master (old php), weekly Email broadcasts to members, data management, headed Analog User's guide documentation, Elmer to new members, iCom PAPA code plug etc. for PAPA system (it was a handful and I had to scale way back). As such, I've continued to dedicate help to Cecil and the PAPA system teams whenever requested. PAPA system isn't perfect but it's trying hard to become better at serving us all.

Many thanks to Bob KG6RGI for building an excellent relationship between our ARC DST team, Cecil and the PAPA system so remakably well that we enjoy today.

73' Nat S N6BRV 


-------- Original message --------
From: Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...>
Date: 7/7/21 4:53 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io
Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa Website

Hi, All -

A few comments about the Papa Website -

- This is a new website for the PAPA System. There will be teething
pains. One of the challenges is locking down the site so that bad actors
can't hijack it. Not unusual for a new website design to require
password changes, especially if the old site was less than secure. FWIW
IMHO the Internet is no longer the Wild West - it's beginning to have a
more "Escape from New York" vibe to it. Organization wishing to protect
their digital assets act accordingly. As a result there may be some
additional restrictions on the content.

- The PAPA System is very supportive of the Red Cross - the fact that
they allow several Red Cross members access to their "control room"
underscores this. Red Cross volunteers who are not members of the PAPA
System have access to their repeaters. A number of Red Cross volunteers
including Bob and myself are members - we will ensure Red Cross
volunteers will have access to the latest repeater information. BTW
consider joining PAPA if you can swing it. Great coverage throughout
Southern California - the group is very active in maintaining/expanding
the system - the care and feeding of mountaintop repeaters is not cheap
so I'm sure the PAPA folks would appreciate your support.

- Which brings me to PLs. Most of the PLs where changed in calendar year
2020. The latest code plug (05/12/2021) reflects all applicable changes
to date. IMHO#2 I don't believe we'll see additional UHF PL changes
unless a new interference issue raises its ugly head. This is one of the
downsides of the large number of repeaters we have in Southern California.

If there are changes we will either issue a new code plug and/or send
out an email addressing the situation.

- Bob is the Chapter representative to the PAPA System. He has a close
working relationship with Cecil. Don't hesitate to address your concerns
to him. He will look into it or detail someone else (probably me) to
bird dog it.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ








Re: Papa System Website & Mu-Teams

Greg Hidley
 

Ditto for me too,  needing a longer password. I lost access briefly until I requested the change password link.

I am also a PAPA subscription (e.g. paying) member.

greg


On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:08 PM Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...> wrote:

Thanks, Steve. Worked for me.

I think one of the reasons for this is that they want more robust passwords. They wouldn't take my old nine character one - they insisted a minimum of twelve characters. They also apparently don't like my VPN.

Jer

On 7/7/2021 12:26 PM, Steve wrote:
Bruce,

The instructions for accessing the new web site were sent out via email on July 1st.

  1. Logon to papasys.com
  2. Click "SITE LOGIN"
  3. Click "Lost your password?"
  4. On the next page, enter your CALLSIGN to receive password reset instructions.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:20 AM Bruce <wa6dnt@...> wrote:
Hi group
Yes I had the same problem. When I clicked on the PAPA site link it took me to a "JS Dashboard" which I found non functional. I am a paid up member but the site would still not let me in, and rejected my long used User name and password. I had to find a different way to pay my current dues membership.

Also - my "Microsoft Teams" account is STILL inoperative! I called over a month ago, to the I.T. National line and waited on hold, listening to elevator music for 45 mins, for some one to pick up. Finally some one answered, and I told them I needed my Microsoft Teams account restored. They filled out a trouble "ticket" and said some one would soon call my cell. This NEVER happened. I got an email about a month later informing me that the "problem" had been " "corrected"   - SO I sent a test message to my Microsoft account - and it was STILL rejected!! So I am giving up on attending ANY meetings using Microsoft Teams!! Recently -  I got an email from National asking if the problem had been resolved with a "Yes"  or  "NO" button. I clicked on "NO" and pasted the "rejection message" on my return traffic. Since then I have heard or received NOTHING from Red Cross National I.T.  Such GREAT SERVICE! -But I am only a lowly volunteer.

73 Bruce  WA6DNT@...   WA6DNT@...


On 7/6/2021 9:42 PM, Nat 2733E N6BRV wrote:
Jerry AK6QJ and Bob KG6RGI are keeping track of the PL and changes that's reflected in the most up-to-date code plug.

Several of us are PAPA members and will make sure our teams have correct information. 

73 Nat S N6BRV 





-------- Original message --------
From: "Fred Curtis, KI6GRO" <fredcurtis@...>
Date: 7/6/21 8:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

All,

The Papa System has decided to lock down some of their web pages to non-members.  One of those pages is the repeater page.  On this page, the Papa System has indicated, they are once again, updating the PL tones.  So, I guess if you are a non-member, you are out of luck!  How are we suppose to keep our personal radios up to date and be prepared, without this basic information?

The lack of this information is not conducive to emcomm or emergency preparedness for our DST group.

Fred Curtis
KI6GRO


--


Re: Papa System Website & Mu-Teams

Jer Kostro - Red Cross
 

Thanks, Steve. Worked for me.

I think one of the reasons for this is that they want more robust passwords. They wouldn't take my old nine character one - they insisted a minimum of twelve characters. They also apparently don't like my VPN.

Jer

On 7/7/2021 12:26 PM, Steve wrote:
Bruce,

The instructions for accessing the new web site were sent out via email on July 1st.

  1. Logon to papasys.com
  2. Click "SITE LOGIN"
  3. Click "Lost your password?"
  4. On the next page, enter your CALLSIGN to receive password reset instructions.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:20 AM Bruce <wa6dnt@...> wrote:
Hi group
Yes I had the same problem. When I clicked on the PAPA site link it took me to a "JS Dashboard" which I found non functional. I am a paid up member but the site would still not let me in, and rejected my long used User name and password. I had to find a different way to pay my current dues membership.

Also - my "Microsoft Teams" account is STILL inoperative! I called over a month ago, to the I.T. National line and waited on hold, listening to elevator music for 45 mins, for some one to pick up. Finally some one answered, and I told them I needed my Microsoft Teams account restored. They filled out a trouble "ticket" and said some one would soon call my cell. This NEVER happened. I got an email about a month later informing me that the "problem" had been " "corrected"   - SO I sent a test message to my Microsoft account - and it was STILL rejected!! So I am giving up on attending ANY meetings using Microsoft Teams!! Recently -  I got an email from National asking if the problem had been resolved with a "Yes"  or  "NO" button. I clicked on "NO" and pasted the "rejection message" on my return traffic. Since then I have heard or received NOTHING from Red Cross National I.T.  Such GREAT SERVICE! -But I am only a lowly volunteer.

73 Bruce  WA6DNT@...   WA6DNT@...


On 7/6/2021 9:42 PM, Nat 2733E N6BRV wrote:
Jerry AK6QJ and Bob KG6RGI are keeping track of the PL and changes that's reflected in the most up-to-date code plug.

Several of us are PAPA members and will make sure our teams have correct information. 

73 Nat S N6BRV 





-------- Original message --------
From: "Fred Curtis, KI6GRO" <fredcurtis@...>
Date: 7/6/21 8:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

All,

The Papa System has decided to lock down some of their web pages to non-members.  One of those pages is the repeater page.  On this page, the Papa System has indicated, they are once again, updating the PL tones.  So, I guess if you are a non-member, you are out of luck!  How are we suppose to keep our personal radios up to date and be prepared, without this basic information?

The lack of this information is not conducive to emcomm or emergency preparedness for our DST group.

Fred Curtis
KI6GRO


--


Papa Website

Jer Kostro - Red Cross
 

Hi, All -

A few comments about the Papa Website -

- This is a new website for the PAPA System. There will be teething pains. One of the challenges is locking down the site so that bad actors can't hijack it. Not unusual for a new website design to require password changes, especially if the old site was less than secure. FWIW IMHO the Internet is no longer the Wild West - it's beginning to have a more "Escape from New York" vibe to it. Organization wishing to protect their digital assets act accordingly. As a result there may be some additional restrictions on the content.

- The PAPA System is very supportive of the Red Cross - the fact that they allow several Red Cross members access to their "control room" underscores this. Red Cross volunteers who are not members of the PAPA System have access to their repeaters. A number of Red Cross volunteers including Bob and myself are members - we will ensure Red Cross volunteers will have access to the latest repeater information. BTW consider joining PAPA if you can swing it. Great coverage throughout Southern California - the group is very active in maintaining/expanding the system - the care and feeding of mountaintop repeaters is not cheap so I'm sure the PAPA folks would appreciate your support.

- Which brings me to PLs. Most of the PLs where changed in calendar year 2020. The latest code plug (05/12/2021) reflects all applicable changes to date. IMHO#2 I don't believe we'll see additional UHF PL changes unless a new interference issue raises its ugly head. This is one of the downsides of the large number of repeaters we have in Southern California.

If there are changes we will either issue a new code plug and/or send out an email addressing the situation.

- Bob is the Chapter representative to the PAPA System. He has a close working relationship with Cecil. Don't hesitate to address your concerns to him. He will look into it or detail someone else (probably me) to bird dog it.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ


Papa System Website

Nat 2733E N6BRV
 

Please see below:

 

73' N6BRV Nat S.

 

From: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io [mailto:main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nat 2733E N6BRV via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 12:39 PM
To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

Danny, thanks for the thoughtful concern.  There's a major update to the website. The PL code webpage is also under locked due to interference issue.

 

Greg, yes, the page is under locked at the moment and the link is blocked. I'm also having login issue (ticket submitted).

 

Fred, please standby.

 

Bruce, I've the same issue please stand by. 

 

Communicating with my tech team at PAPA.....

 

73 Nat S N6BRV 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "Briggs, Danny" <danny.briggs@...>

Date: 7/7/21 10:54 AM (GMT-08:00)

To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io

Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

Nat, do we have wait until a major disaster like a large wildfire or an different event to receive the updated PL tones? Or this is an area 51 need to know information among a few?

 

From: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io <main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nat 2733E N6BRV
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:43 PM
To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

Jerry AK6QJ and Bob KG6RGI are keeping track of the PL and changes that's reflected in the most up-to-date code plug.

 

Several of us are PAPA members and will make sure our teams have correct information. 

 

73 Nat S N6BRV 

 

 

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "Fred Curtis, KI6GRO" <fredcurtis@...>

Date: 7/6/21 8:38 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

All,

The Papa System has decided to lock down some of their web pages to non-members.  One of those pages is the repeater page.  On this page, the Papa System has indicated, they are once again, updating the PL tones.  So, I guess if you are a non-member, you are out of luck!  How are we suppose to keep our personal radios up to date and be prepared, without this basic information?

The lack of this information is not conducive to emcomm or emergency preparedness for our DST group.

Fred Curtis
KI6GRO

 

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

Nat 2733E N6BRV
 

Danny, thanks for the thoughtful concern.  There's a major update to the website. The PL code webpage is also under locked due to interference issue.

Greg, yes, the page is under locked at the moment and the link is blocked. I'm also having login issue (ticket submitted).

Fred, please standby.

Bruce, I've the same issue please stand by. 

Communicating with my tech team at PAPA.....

73 Nat S N6BRV 


-------- Original message --------
From: "Briggs, Danny" <danny.briggs@...>
Date: 7/7/21 10:54 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

Nat, do we have wait until a major disaster like a large wildfire or an different event to receive the updated PL tones? Or this is an area 51 need to know information among a few?

 

From: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io <main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nat 2733E N6BRV
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:43 PM
To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

Jerry AK6QJ and Bob KG6RGI are keeping track of the PL and changes that's reflected in the most up-to-date code plug.

 

Several of us are PAPA members and will make sure our teams have correct information. 

 

73 Nat S N6BRV 

 

 

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "Fred Curtis, KI6GRO" <fredcurtis@...>

Date: 7/6/21 8:38 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

All,

The Papa System has decided to lock down some of their web pages to non-members.  One of those pages is the repeater page.  On this page, the Papa System has indicated, they are once again, updating the PL tones.  So, I guess if you are a non-member, you are out of luck!  How are we suppose to keep our personal radios up to date and be prepared, without this basic information?

The lack of this information is not conducive to emcomm or emergency preparedness for our DST group.

Fred Curtis
KI6GRO

 

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.


Re: Papa System Website & Mu-Teams

Steve
 

Bruce,

The instructions for accessing the new web site were sent out via email on July 1st.

  1. Logon to papasys.com
  2. Click "SITE LOGIN"
  3. Click "Lost your password?"
  4. On the next page, enter your CALLSIGN to receive password reset instructions.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:20 AM Bruce <wa6dnt@...> wrote:
Hi group
Yes I had the same problem. When I clicked on the PAPA site link it took me to a "JS Dashboard" which I found non functional. I am a paid up member but the site would still not let me in, and rejected my long used User name and password. I had to find a different way to pay my current dues membership.

Also - my "Microsoft Teams" account is STILL inoperative! I called over a month ago, to the I.T. National line and waited on hold, listening to elevator music for 45 mins, for some one to pick up. Finally some one answered, and I told them I needed my Microsoft Teams account restored. They filled out a trouble "ticket" and said some one would soon call my cell. This NEVER happened. I got an email about a month later informing me that the "problem" had been " "corrected"   - SO I sent a test message to my Microsoft account - and it was STILL rejected!! So I am giving up on attending ANY meetings using Microsoft Teams!! Recently -  I got an email from National asking if the problem had been resolved with a "Yes"  or  "NO" button. I clicked on "NO" and pasted the "rejection message" on my return traffic. Since then I have heard or received NOTHING from Red Cross National I.T.  Such GREAT SERVICE! -But I am only a lowly volunteer.

73 Bruce  WA6DNT@...   WA6DNT@...


On 7/6/2021 9:42 PM, Nat 2733E N6BRV wrote:
Jerry AK6QJ and Bob KG6RGI are keeping track of the PL and changes that's reflected in the most up-to-date code plug.

Several of us are PAPA members and will make sure our teams have correct information. 

73 Nat S N6BRV 





-------- Original message --------
From: "Fred Curtis, KI6GRO" <fredcurtis@...>
Date: 7/6/21 8:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

All,

The Papa System has decided to lock down some of their web pages to non-members.  One of those pages is the repeater page.  On this page, the Papa System has indicated, they are once again, updating the PL tones.  So, I guess if you are a non-member, you are out of luck!  How are we suppose to keep our personal radios up to date and be prepared, without this basic information?

The lack of this information is not conducive to emcomm or emergency preparedness for our DST group.

Fred Curtis
KI6GRO




Re: Papa System Website & Mu-Teams

Bruce
 

Hi group
Yes I had the same problem. When I clicked on the PAPA site link it took me to a "JS Dashboard" which I found non functional. I am a paid up member but the site would still not let me in, and rejected my long used User name and password. I had to find a different way to pay my current dues membership.

Also - my "Microsoft Teams" account is STILL inoperative! I called over a month ago, to the I.T. National line and waited on hold, listening to elevator music for 45 mins, for some one to pick up. Finally some one answered, and I told them I needed my Microsoft Teams account restored. They filled out a trouble "ticket" and said some one would soon call my cell. This NEVER happened. I got an email about a month later informing me that the "problem" had been " "corrected"   - SO I sent a test message to my Microsoft account - and it was STILL rejected!! So I am giving up on attending ANY meetings using Microsoft Teams!! Recently -  I got an email from National asking if the problem had been resolved with a "Yes"  or  "NO" button. I clicked on "NO" and pasted the "rejection message" on my return traffic. Since then I have heard or received NOTHING from Red Cross National I.T.  Such GREAT SERVICE! -But I am only a lowly volunteer.

73 Bruce  WA6DNT@...   WA6DNT@...


On 7/6/2021 9:42 PM, Nat 2733E N6BRV wrote:
Jerry AK6QJ and Bob KG6RGI are keeping track of the PL and changes that's reflected in the most up-to-date code plug.

Several of us are PAPA members and will make sure our teams have correct information. 

73 Nat S N6BRV 





-------- Original message --------
From: "Fred Curtis, KI6GRO" <fredcurtis@...>
Date: 7/6/21 8:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

All,

The Papa System has decided to lock down some of their web pages to non-members.  One of those pages is the repeater page.  On this page, the Papa System has indicated, they are once again, updating the PL tones.  So, I guess if you are a non-member, you are out of luck!  How are we suppose to keep our personal radios up to date and be prepared, without this basic information?

The lack of this information is not conducive to emcomm or emergency preparedness for our DST group.

Fred Curtis
KI6GRO


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

Briggs, Danny
 

Nat, do we have wait until a major disaster like a large wildfire or an different event to receive the updated PL tones? Or this is an area 51 need to know information among a few?

 

From: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io <main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nat 2733E N6BRV
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 9:43 PM
To: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

Jerry AK6QJ and Bob KG6RGI are keeping track of the PL and changes that's reflected in the most up-to-date code plug.

 

Several of us are PAPA members and will make sure our teams have correct information. 

 

73 Nat S N6BRV 

 

 

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: "Fred Curtis, KI6GRO" <fredcurtis@...>

Date: 7/6/21 8:38 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Papa System Website

 

All,

The Papa System has decided to lock down some of their web pages to non-members.  One of those pages is the repeater page.  On this page, the Papa System has indicated, they are once again, updating the PL tones.  So, I guess if you are a non-member, you are out of luck!  How are we suppose to keep our personal radios up to date and be prepared, without this basic information?

The lack of this information is not conducive to emcomm or emergency preparedness for our DST group.

Fred Curtis
KI6GRO

 

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

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