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Re: Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/16/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

Martin Offenhauer
 

HI,

I agree about only using roaming when out on the road. There is no reason to use it when you are in range of your usual repeater. For me that is usually Miquel.   You would still need to know the repeaters along your route and have them programmed in your roaming zone. I will check up on the roaming list in my codeplug and make sure it matches the new PAPA listings.

I will be going to VT later this year and am researching the DMR repeaters in the areas I will be traveling - there aren't very many ! Perhaps some of the websites will have information on how they view roaming.  

Thanks,

Martin Offenhauer
Disaster Communications Operator
N6QIR 
619 675 2844
N6QIRSD@...


On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:09 AM Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...> wrote:

APRS might become an issue in the future, too.

RE: repeater system policies. You might want to google the system (or the geographic area you're interested in plus the search term "DMR repeater" if you don't know the system's name) to see if they have a web site. So far in my experience few systems have detailed policies, but some do (especially in the northwest.). I believe you'll see more policies address roaming in the future.

IMHO roaming may be a good idea on the open highway between cities, but I'll use it with caution here is Socal. Too many repeaters on high spots - I can at times hit four or five from my QTH - I can see where roaming can get problematic.

73,

Jer

On 7/16/2019 8:48 AM, Martin Offenhauer wrote:
HI,

Please give me an email check in tonight.

Also last night on the PAPA DMR Roundtable, I asked a question about 878 roaming.  My question was about what the radio shows on the screen when you are roaming and how to know what repeater you have connected with.

I drove to San Bernadino (only 106F!) last week and tried the roaming feature on the way up and back. I used the PAPA All zone that is set up in the RC codeplug.  I enabled the auto roaming and repeater search.  I noticed that while I was able to connect to various PAPA repeaters up and down 15, the display on the radio does not change and show what repeater you are going thru.  If you are not on a static talkgroup you may not know that you are connected to a new repeater, since for example you have to key up TAC 310.  Also, a given repeater may not have the talkgroup you are using supported.  

So most of the responses were that while the "repeater out of range" and "roaming"  the original repeater and talkgroup were displayed and you really didn't know what repeater you had "roamed" to.

Another comment was made by a repeater owner that with all these 878s out there, the possibility of overwhelming repeaters could be a problem as they ping during roaming. He suggested that operators should know the policy of the repeaters they want to use while roaming (although he didn't say how).  It does seem possible that there could be a lot of traffic from radios operating in roaming mode

Martin Offenhauer
Disaster Communications Operator
N6QIR 
619 675 2844


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:38 PM Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...> wrote:

My bad - long week last week.

Giving xxxxx, YYYYY, zzzzz the night off, to be replaced by AE6O, KG6RGI, and KJ6HOV respectively.

Back to the usual cast of characters next week.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ

On 7/15/2019 8:00 PM, main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar wrote:

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 16 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - xxxxx
North Check-Ins - yyyyy
South Check-Ins - zzzzz

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Re: Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/16/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

Jer Kostro - Red Cross
 

APRS might become an issue in the future, too.

RE: repeater system policies. You might want to google the system (or the geographic area you're interested in plus the search term "DMR repeater" if you don't know the system's name) to see if they have a web site. So far in my experience few systems have detailed policies, but some do (especially in the northwest.). I believe you'll see more policies address roaming in the future.

IMHO roaming may be a good idea on the open highway between cities, but I'll use it with caution here is Socal. Too many repeaters on high spots - I can at times hit four or five from my QTH - I can see where roaming can get problematic.

73,

Jer

On 7/16/2019 8:48 AM, Martin Offenhauer wrote:
HI,

Please give me an email check in tonight.

Also last night on the PAPA DMR Roundtable, I asked a question about 878 roaming.  My question was about what the radio shows on the screen when you are roaming and how to know what repeater you have connected with.

I drove to San Bernadino (only 106F!) last week and tried the roaming feature on the way up and back. I used the PAPA All zone that is set up in the RC codeplug.  I enabled the auto roaming and repeater search.  I noticed that while I was able to connect to various PAPA repeaters up and down 15, the display on the radio does not change and show what repeater you are going thru.  If you are not on a static talkgroup you may not know that you are connected to a new repeater, since for example you have to key up TAC 310.  Also, a given repeater may not have the talkgroup you are using supported.  

So most of the responses were that while the "repeater out of range" and "roaming"  the original repeater and talkgroup were displayed and you really didn't know what repeater you had "roamed" to.

Another comment was made by a repeater owner that with all these 878s out there, the possibility of overwhelming repeaters could be a problem as they ping during roaming. He suggested that operators should know the policy of the repeaters they want to use while roaming (although he didn't say how).  It does seem possible that there could be a lot of traffic from radios operating in roaming mode

Martin Offenhauer
Disaster Communications Operator
N6QIR 
619 675 2844


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:38 PM Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...> wrote:

My bad - long week last week.

Giving xxxxx, YYYYY, zzzzz the night off, to be replaced by AE6O, KG6RGI, and KJ6HOV respectively.

Back to the usual cast of characters next week.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ

On 7/15/2019 8:00 PM, main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar wrote:

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 16 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - xxxxx
North Check-Ins - yyyyy
South Check-Ins - zzzzz

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Re: Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/16/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

Greg Hidley
 

Great information Martin! Thanks for sharing.

There is another variable that could have affected your experience while on the road. If you were using an AT 878 and if you had the newest Red Cross codeplug loaded, the following might apply ...

The newest Red Cross codeplug had some recently updated PAPA frequencies. But, while these frequencies were corrected in the respective channel entries, they were not corrected in the 878's "Roaming Channel" list. Thus, if roaming were enabled on your 878, a few of the repeaters it searched for to roam among from the "Roaming Channel" list had the wrong frequencies. My review showed that incorrect (old) frequencies remained for the OAT, PAL and SUN repeaters.

greg, kj6hov




On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:48 AM Martin Offenhauer <n6qirsd@...> wrote:
HI,

Please give me an email check in tonight.

Also last night on the PAPA DMR Roundtable, I asked a question about 878 roaming.  My question was about what the radio shows on the screen when you are roaming and how to know what repeater you have connected with.

I drove to San Bernadino (only 106F!) last week and tried the roaming feature on the way up and back. I used the PAPA All zone that is set up in the RC codeplug.  I enabled the auto roaming and repeater search.  I noticed that while I was able to connect to various PAPA repeaters up and down 15, the display on the radio does not change and show what repeater you are going thru.  If you are not on a static talkgroup you may not know that you are connected to a new repeater, since for example you have to key up TAC 310.  Also, a given repeater may not have the talkgroup you are using supported.  

So most of the responses were that while the "repeater out of range" and "roaming"  the original repeater and talkgroup were displayed and you really didn't know what repeater you had "roamed" to.

Another comment was made by a repeater owner that with all these 878s out there, the possibility of overwhelming repeaters could be a problem as they ping during roaming. He suggested that operators should know the policy of the repeaters they want to use while roaming (although he didn't say how).  It does seem possible that there could be a lot of traffic from radios operating in roaming mode

Martin Offenhauer
Disaster Communications Operator
N6QIR 
619 675 2844
N6QIRSD@...


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:38 PM Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...> wrote:

My bad - long week last week.

Giving xxxxx, YYYYY, zzzzz the night off, to be replaced by AE6O, KG6RGI, and KJ6HOV respectively.

Back to the usual cast of characters next week.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ

On 7/15/2019 8:00 PM, main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar wrote:

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 16 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - xxxxx
North Check-Ins - yyyyy
South Check-Ins - zzzzz

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Re: Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/16/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

Martin Offenhauer
 

HI,

Please give me an email check in tonight.

Also last night on the PAPA DMR Roundtable, I asked a question about 878 roaming.  My question was about what the radio shows on the screen when you are roaming and how to know what repeater you have connected with.

I drove to San Bernadino (only 106F!) last week and tried the roaming feature on the way up and back. I used the PAPA All zone that is set up in the RC codeplug.  I enabled the auto roaming and repeater search.  I noticed that while I was able to connect to various PAPA repeaters up and down 15, the display on the radio does not change and show what repeater you are going thru.  If you are not on a static talkgroup you may not know that you are connected to a new repeater, since for example you have to key up TAC 310.  Also, a given repeater may not have the talkgroup you are using supported.  

So most of the responses were that while the "repeater out of range" and "roaming"  the original repeater and talkgroup were displayed and you really didn't know what repeater you had "roamed" to.

Another comment was made by a repeater owner that with all these 878s out there, the possibility of overwhelming repeaters could be a problem as they ping during roaming. He suggested that operators should know the policy of the repeaters they want to use while roaming (although he didn't say how).  It does seem possible that there could be a lot of traffic from radios operating in roaming mode

Martin Offenhauer
Disaster Communications Operator
N6QIR 
619 675 2844
N6QIRSD@...


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:38 PM Jer Kostro - Red Cross <jer.kostro.AK6QJ@...> wrote:

My bad - long week last week.

Giving xxxxx, YYYYY, zzzzz the night off, to be replaced by AE6O, KG6RGI, and KJ6HOV respectively.

Back to the usual cast of characters next week.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ

On 7/15/2019 8:00 PM, main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar wrote:

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 16 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - xxxxx
North Check-Ins - yyyyy
South Check-Ins - zzzzz

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Fun With DMR

Jer Kostro - Red Cross
 

Hi, All -

Did a little experiment tonight re: the PAPA System DMR net. I used two Anytone HTs - one accessing the San Marcos Peak repeater, the other one monitoring through the Internet using a ZumSpot USB with a RasPi 3A+.

Observations:

  • The ZumSpot audio lagged the repeater audio by 1-2 seconds. A little disconcerting to listen to at first but by maximizing the difference in audio levels I was able to concentrate on one radio while monitoring the second.
  • During a one hour period I experience ten (10) "cutouts" (aka loss of signal). They were relatively short - 3-20 seconds.
  • Seven of the cutouts were on the SMP repeater, probably due to someone capturing the time slot as these cutouts were longer (steady blue light but no audio).
  • One of the cutouts was due to a burble with the ZumSpot. Have no idea what caused it. Internet service here at the Hacienda provided by Spectrum cable. Perhaps a bandwidth issue in the neighborhood as the XYL was viewing a DVD.
  • Two cutouts were user error as Michael AF6FB commented on not being able to hear the station or audio issues due to high packet loss.
  • IMHO the system worked as well as I've heard it since I started listening to this net in mid-May. Also most participants are getting a handle on their audio levels.

73,

 Jer aka AK6QJ


Re: Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/16/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

Jer Kostro - Red Cross
 

My bad - long week last week.

Giving xxxxx, YYYYY, zzzzz the night off, to be replaced by AE6O, KG6RGI, and KJ6HOV respectively.

Back to the usual cast of characters next week.

73,

Jer aka AK6QJ

On 7/15/2019 8:00 PM, main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar wrote:

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 16 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - xxxxx
North Check-Ins - yyyyy
South Check-Ins - zzzzz

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/16/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 16 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - xxxxx
North Check-Ins - yyyyy
South Check-Ins - zzzzz

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Re: New file uploaded to main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io

Daniel Musick
 

This is all I could find. Please fill in.


Re: New file uploaded to main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io

Greg Hidley
 

Last distributed roster had a "D" in the OpsCode field. You can make your list from that. See attached.

Your ID will appear once it has been propagated into the latest digital contact list (as referenced in Jerrys email) and uploaded into everyones DMR HT.

greg


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 11:46 AM Daniel Musick <danielmusick@...> wrote:
What I am looking for is the list of JUST Red Cross DMR members.
My radio is 3143438. How do I put this in the Book. By manual input or is there a list I can create and import.



Re: New file uploaded to main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io

Daniel Musick
 

What I am looking for is the list of JUST Red Cross DMR members.
My radio is 3143438. How do I put this in the Book. By manual input or is there a list I can create and import.



New file uploaded to main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io

main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Notification <main+notification@...>
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io group.

File: DMR 878 Contact List Instructions 2019_07_14.pdf

Uploaded By: Jer Kostro - Red Cross

Description:
Draft instructions on how to update the Digital Contact List in the Anytone 878. Let me know if you have any comments or suggestions and I'll incorporate it into the final version.

You can access this file at the URL:
https://ARC2-SDICC.groups.io/g/main/files/DMR/DMR%20878%20Contact%20List%20Instructions%202019_07_14.pdf

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team


Re: DMR Livestream Q&A Wednesday

Steve
 


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:08 PM Greg Hidley <ghidley@...> wrote:
Seems to not be happening ...

greg


On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:07 PM Steve <stevew7sjk@...> wrote:
8PM Central = 6PM PDT (Youtube countdown clock seems wrong)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMI9PxvJQY


Re: DMR Livestream Q&A Wednesday

Steve
 

Technical difficulties..


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:08 PM Greg Hidley <ghidley@...> wrote:
Seems to not be happening ...

greg


On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:07 PM Steve <stevew7sjk@...> wrote:
8PM Central = 6PM PDT (Youtube countdown clock seems wrong)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMI9PxvJQY


Re: DMR Livestream Q&A Wednesday

Greg Hidley
 

Seems to not be happening ...

greg


On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:07 PM Steve <stevew7sjk@...> wrote:
8PM Central = 6PM PDT (Youtube countdown clock seems wrong)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMI9PxvJQY


Re: Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/09/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

Mike Corum
 

email checkin for Mike, KD6AEB... Please



On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 2:00 PM main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar <main@arc2-sdicc.groups.io> wrote:

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - KJ6HOV
North Check-Ins - KI6YAL
South Check-Ins - W7SJK

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).



--
Mike Corum
_______________________
KD6AEB.com



Re: Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/09/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

Patrick
 

Email check in for Patrick and Mae


From: main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io <main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io> on behalf of main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar <main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2019 14:00
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Subject: [ARC2-SDICC] Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/09/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder
 

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - KJ6HOV
North Check-Ins - KI6YAL
South Check-Ins - W7SJK

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/09/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - KJ6HOV
North Check-Ins - KI6YAL
South Check-Ins - W7SJK

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


Upcoming Event: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net - Tue, 07/09/2019 8:00pm-8:30pm #cal-reminder

main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
 

Reminder: Red Cross Communications Team Weekly Net

When: Tuesday, 9 July 2019, 8:00pm to 8:30pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:RACES/ACS Repeater; 147.195 MHz, "+" offset, PL 114.8

View Event

Description: Net Control - KJ6HOV
North Check-Ins - KI6YAL
South Check-Ins - W7SJK

This is a voted repeater system. Please allow approximately 1 second between pushing the PTT button on you mic and talking to allow the system to work its magic. Repeater times out after 2 minutes. If this repeater is unavailable please migrate to the PARC 130 machine (147.130 MHz, "+" offset, PL 107.2).


DMR Livestream Q&A Wednesday

Steve
 

8PM Central = 6PM PDT (Youtube countdown clock seems wrong)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMI9PxvJQY


New file uploaded to main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io

main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io Notification <main+notification@...>
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the main@ARC2-SDICC.groups.io group.

File: RCCT WEEKLY NET ROSTER 2019_07_08.pdf

Uploaded By: Jer Kostro - Red Cross

Description:
July-August 2019 Net Roster & Assignments effective immediately - added new Ops Code "D" for DMR-capable. Please contact me with corrections. 73 - Jer aka AK6QJ

You can access this file at the URL:
https://ARC2-SDICC.groups.io/g/main/files/Weekly%20Nets/RCCT%20WEEKLY%20NET%20ROSTER%202019_07_08.pdf

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team